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Discussion in 'Cascade Bay' started by Magnus Bane, Jan 19, 2018.

  1. Magnus Bane

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    January 28, Year 7
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    Ever since John told him about his current... condition... Magnus poured himself into research on vampire venoms and properties whenever he had the chance. Unfortunately, the promise he made to John not to go searching for the vampire in question, in addition to the promise not to tell Alec anything about what was going on with him, left Magnus with limited resources and even more limited places to look into said resources.

    That was what, on this particular day, brought him (and the growing stack of notes he had shoved into a book on vampires from what he could only gather was some sort of parallel earth sort of universe, as nothing in it behaved quite the way he was used to vampire lore behaving) back to The Homestead. After a close call at both the Schola and the Hotel, Magnus knew that he couldn't keep looking into this places that Alec may wander into. He was relatively certain the bar in Cascade Bay was the safest bet to keep that from happening again.

    "Don't you ever give yourself a day off?" Magnus asked, spotting the same blonde girl behind the bar that he had the handful of previous stops he made here. He considered situating himself off at a corner table but, already addressing the woman, he decided the end of the bar would do just as well - careful to keep himself and the small spread of notes he had as out of the way as possible.
     
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    Jo was starting to adjust to life... not constantly moving. She had her own place. She had the Homestead. She had a regular life and a regular routine. She even cleaned her place up and made sure all the bills were paid at both locations. Waking up in the same bed everyday was still... it was nice. It was all really nice. Which meant that a part of the blonde was waiting for this other shoe to drop. The one where all the terrible things came crawling out of the corners and the like.

    But she was starting to see the same faces over and over again at the bar. Regulars. It was nice in a way, except the couple that were drunks and only showed up because they wanted to be drunk all the time. They were the ones that had to be handled with care. Just enough not to upset them but making sure you put your foot down when you said you had enough. Jo preferred to handle those herself though.

    A quick smirk appeared on the blonde's lips as she was greeted by one of the regulars. "Would, cept I'm the owner and I prefer to be here on my off time anyway." A lot of people were surprised when Jo pointed out she was the owner. Which was fine really. Not too big of a deal. "How have things been?" She wanted to ask about his house. About his boyfriend. About all the things they had discussed before. But she would wait for him to start that conversation. No point prying when they really didn't know each other.
     
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    So she was the owner of the place, then. Somehow he hadn't noticed during his other visits, not that there was anything to really notice that would visibly set her apart as the owner of the place rather than just another employee, not when she was situated so naturally behind the bar. It wasn't like the hotel, where owning and running the operation was a very 'sit behind the desk' sort of job for the most part.

    He had a look of appreciation at the knowledge, but didn't comment on it because she followed up by asking how things were going, and he didn't want to side-track the conversation from what he assumed was curiosity over the decision he had to make when he was here last - one he promised to fill her in on once it all happened.

    "Things in general are a bit of a mixed bag right now," he admitted, unable to shake his concern for John (and the reason he was here reading up and making notes rather than at home), but at least things weren't all bad. "But the house - which I ended up getting - went over impressively well." His face lit up at the memory of Alec's reaction to it on Christmas morning, how eager he'd been to go see the place, how simple it all felt now that it was done and theirs. "There was no reselling necessary, thankfully." The back-up plan she suggested was a good one, but one he was glad he didn't have to use.
     
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    Mixed. That was always a bad answer. Jo knew that mixed answers were never a good sign. That meant that things were complicated for him. Things were better when they were straight forward and Jo typically wanted to run away from complicated things as much as possible. At least... as long as she wasn't hunting them. Then it was just annoying.

    "Well, that's good." At least the house wasn't the complicated part. Funny how Jo cared about that sort of thing. It was easy to care about your regulars. You got to know things about their lives, little insights, and you could like the nice ones. As long as she didn't find anything terrible out about them. Like they were a vampire feeding on the innocent or something akin to that.

    "At least that's a cause for celebration." Jo couldn't remember exactly what his boyfriend's name was. A something or other. Alan? Alex? Andrew? He was a regular but Jo had had a lot of different conversations with a lot of different people here at the Homestead. It was... nice. Oddly.

    She leaned on the counter for a second before picking up a glass and pushing it towards Magnus. "Same as last time?" She could remember what he was drinking though. That part was easy enough.
     
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    "I'm not sure how I feel about coming here often enough that you know my drink by now." Magnus said, the words serving as a confirmation that he would, in fact, be having whiskey again. It was a simple drink and one he defaulted to when in a public bar setting like this. Unlike his fancier cocktails and martinis that he preferred to drink while he was making them, he also didn't trust the average bartender to be able to whip up something like that to the standards he liked them. Nor did he expect them to - hence the default to whiskey almost every time he found himself in the bar.

    Which, it seemed, was an increasing amount when he needed a little 'away' time. A glance around the room told him that he was probably an easy face to remember, though. Between the excessive jewelry, the bold patterns of his clothing, the heavy eye makeup and occasional burst of glitter for show... his unique style stood out in stark contrast to a lot of his surroundings. It made sense that she'd remember the guy with the rings who drank all her whiskey after a time or two or three.

    He pulled a book and a small legal-pad style notebook out of his bag, setting them to the left of where Jo slid the glass over to him. The book, one with the title 'Vampirism: Studies of Legends and Lore' embedded on the spine. He didn't think twice of it, assuming no one around him would care enough to look that closely into what he was reading.
     
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    Whiskey was sort of hard to forget. Like his face and outfit, yes. He certainly stood out among the normally dressed folk like herself but he blended in with a few crowds in certain areas. She didn't have an inkling that he was involved in magic but she figured he was some sort of city slicker of some sort. Nobody in the mid-west dressed like that when they were that old, typically. Not in her little poke dunk home town.

    Still it wasn't a bad look on him and Jo really didn't judge in those situations. It wasn't like she was some sort of fashionista. She had no idea what that look meant so she didn't really care. Customers were customers. And nice customers were even better. So as long as Magnus kept up that low key friendly demeanor, Jo was going to give the same.

    Jo poured out the whiskey and moved to hand it to the dark haired man. Normal enough gesture but the spine of his book caught the blonde's eye pretty heavily. After all she thought she had incorrectly assumed he was a hunter before. Settling him comfortably into that normal category even if he was a city boy. So what was he doing with a vampire book?

    "You do know that there are actual vampires in Pandora, right?" She was keeping her voice neutral enough. He hadn't done anything to suggest he was a vampire and Jo doubted even vampires went around reading about themselves. They were almost always arrogant bloodsuckers. Some could be smart but arrogance seemed to be key.
     
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    The book was plain enough besides the title engraved into the binding, and he hadn't imagined anyone would pay close enough attention to that to warrant hiding it. Not that he had anything to hide - it was no secret that vampires existed in Pandora, and his research into them could be passed off as mere curiosity, if nothing else. So when he followed her gaze down to the book before she asked him about vampires, he was surprised to see that it was something that immediately drew her interest. Surely people did more interesting things to focus on in a bar than read a book from the library, after all?

    "Oh, I'm well aware. There are actual vampires in the world I'm from as well." Magnus said, his tone casual and conversational. After all, the neutral way she asked the question didn't lead him to believe that she had any strong feelings one way or the other on the subject, maybe she knew something about them that she would've warned him about had he been entirely unaware.

    Still, he knew better than to immediately admit that some of those vampires were among his friends, a select few some of his closest companions over the years; one didn't live for four centuries without developing some conversational self-preservation among mundanes, even in Pandora.

    "Why? Know anything about them?" He returned, just as casually. It was a long shot, but hey, it didn't hurt to ask. He reached for the glass as he waited for a response, taking a small sip of the top-shelf whiskey that had become his usual.
     
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    There were actual vampires from a wealth of different worlds. Jo had met a ton of different ones. Mostly violent but she could say that about a lot of different people. A lot of different things really and most of them weren't good to deal with when you were a normal, squishy human. But not all of them were bad. Not all of them were deadly. There were plenty that lived in Pandora Town that managed to live life without hurting anyone and Jo had learned to live with that. She was only ever interested in the ones that hurt others.

    "Plenty. Depending on the type." Jo was a little quiet while she spoke, carefully wording her words. Not because she was worried over Magnus' reaction exactly. But because it was sometimes difficult to talk about in the present tense without getting in some serious trouble. Pandora had this universal law that applied everywhere: the past was the past. But Jo hadn't just killed vampires in the past, now had she?

    "Back home all they do is kill people." Same neutral tone, same neutral look on her face. Calm because she really didn't know who Magnus worked for or what influence he might have had. Would a guard be looking at some dead bodies she may have forgotten to burn properly. That would have been annoying. She didn't want to give us the Homestead or anything else of that nature. She liked it here.

    "A lot of things kill people back home. So depending on the type of thing, I can have a lot of advice." How to handle a problem. How to make sure it was dead. How to keep your own head on your shoulders. If you were so inclined. So what was Magnus doing? Research because he was having problems or because he was looking for a supposed murderer?
     
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    Despite the neutral tone with which Jo spoke of the vampires in her own world it was obvious that she didn't hold a lot of love for them. How could she, if all they did was kill? And of course, from what he gathered, that was the case with a lot of vampires in a lot of worlds that he came across in Pandora. It seemed his own was in the minority when it came to the laws in place keeping that very scenario from running rampant.

    Not that everyone obeyed the Accords. There were always those rogue vampires, sometimes entire clans, who wouldn't think twice about taking a mundane life. They never last long. "I'm sorry to hear that. They're far more humane where I come from - though we have Laws in place to ensure the clans remain in check." Perhaps she already knew that not all vampires were the sort to go around killing at will, or perhaps she didn't. He thought it worth mentioning either way, in no small part because he had vampire friends here in Pandora who did not need that sort of immediate assumption made of them. They didn't deserve that.

    "It certainly sounds like you have a lot of experience in these 'things', for a simple bartender," he observed, mirroring her neutral tone with a small, almost playful smile on his face, wondering what she might know that she wasn't saying. Wondering if she would tell him if he asked.

    Taking the gamble, he decided there was one way to find out.

    "Vampire venom. It can have an almost euphoric effect in my world, meant to keep the mundane being fed on from feeling pain before they heal. I'm looking into the side-effects noted in varying lore- potential magical properties to it, any addictive qualities... potential solutions to said addictive qualities." He took another casual sip of his whiskey. "In my world there is nothing even healing magic can do to remove the effects once someone becomes addicted to the vampire venom, but I wondered if perhaps other venoms, or other worlds..." Without coming right out and saying he was looking to help someone with that particular issue, it was heavily implied.

    ((ooc- I DON"T KNOW WHY BUT THIS POST WAS A STRUGGLE? nothing sounded... right. So sorry if it's awful! x_X ))
     
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    "I understand there can be different types. I don't have a problem with anyone who minds their own business and doesn't hurt others." Even if they were weird sparkly vampires or anything of the sort. Jo had learned to leave those alone. There were plenty of interesting sorts in Pandora. Open magic users who used their abilities for the good of people instead of using the magic of a demon for their own selfish gains, for example. Jo might have been a bit biased but she wasn't blind. She could understand the difference even if it made her a little bit uncomfortable.

    It was an interesting turn of the conversation when Magnus started to tell her about the vampires back in his world. They were pretty different from the ones in her world, at least if you put them down on paper. "Yeah, there's no turning back when you're a vampire in my world either. Except it makes you into this animal that has to feed all the time. Once you feed on their blood, you turn. Gotta be carefully when you kill them. Gotta cut off their heads and make sure you don't get any in your mouth." Otherwise you'd turn.

    Jo was still speaking calmly as she explained her own world's brew of vampires. "Course, demons are always worse to deal with and angels are dicks or idiots. But my world is full of creatures that don't really care about humans or think of them as food. So. Pandora was a little difficult to adjust to at first." Thankfully Jo had two years of buffer and a new will to live to help curb her need to curb stop monsters.
     
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    That much was a relief to hear. Assuming she meant it. He knew that there were some biases that ran too deep to ever convince someone to change their mind about... like the one that Valentine held against all of the Downworlders in their world. No amount of reasoning could tell him that he was wrong, that they weren't all the same as the ones who killed his family. If vampires had done something to Jo or her family before, for her to know this much about them, he wouldn't be surprised to find a similar underlying issue here.

    Especially considering how much she knew about killing them in particular. "I never imagined I'd say this, but thankfully there are a few more steps to turning into a vampire where I'm from." It was nothing that could happen so accidentally, the way it could happen with the werewolves.

    He allowed a small, short bark of a laugh at the statement of 'angels are dicks or idiots', something he imagined many of his Shadowhunter acquaintances would take horrible offense to. The angels were the start of their entire being, after all, and quite literally part of their blood. He decided to skip over commenting on that in favor of her last statement, however. "I can't imagine Pandora being easy for anyone to adjust to," he pointed out. "But yes, it sounds as if you had your work cut out for you in a place such as this. I met a rather lovely demon during my first months here, it was very unexpected." He left out the fact that said demon was now in charge of the Department of Commerce and Labor.

    "I'm constantly surprised by the vast differences between worlds. Usually I find them all fascinating, but at the moment those differences are only proving rather infuriating." He admitted, motioning helplessly to the book next to him.
     
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    A few more steps? Well that meant it wouldn't be so easy for a vampire to infect a bunch of people. Jo had no idea that there was cure for the stuff back home as long as it was done in time. She had never been privy to that information but the blonde knew how to handle vampires pretty well. She had run into a variety of them in Pandora that didn't have any respect for life. She had learned to kill a lot of them.

    Demons. Jo couldn't stop the frown that appeared on her lips at that word. Demons was... well, there were bit of a sore spot for the hunter. She didn't like them in the least bit. For obvious reasons to her but no one else would know why. Except for one of the fucking Winchesters. Jo had only seen Dean but if Sam was lurking around as well, she wouldn't have been surprised.

    "Yeah, things can get dicey here if you don't know exactly what you're dealing with." Magnus hadn't said anything to suggest that he was looking for whether or not she was a murderer so she was still continuing the conversation. For the moment. If anything tipped her off otherwise then the bar owner would walk away. She just had to be careful.

    "What's frustrating you? Twelve different kinds of vampire or a vampire itself?" Maybe that would help her figure out what Magnus' angle was in all of this. Maybe. She still wasn't sure what kind of advice might have helped him with his problem.
     
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    He caught the look on her face at the word 'demon', once more reminded with a dull ache in the pit of his stomach of just what he was. Warlock sounded glamorous. High Warlock of Brooklyn sounded prestigious. But half-demon spawn of a Prince of Hell was a little less of both (not counting the prestige among the demons themselves, of course, that came with dropping is father's name under the right circumstances). He never forgot what he was, even if he had come to terms with it long ago, for the most part.

    But demons weren't the concern just then. Jo knew of vampires. And she knew of vampires here, specifically in Pandora. This wasn't a coincidence - perhaps fate had driven Magnus to this particular bar all of those times, just so that he could return here now when her particular expertise may be able to help him. Expertise he hadn't been seeking because he hadn't knew it existed. That had to be some sort of divine intervention, didn't it?

    "Say, hypothetically speaking, I have an acquaintance. This acquaintance, through a series of bad decisions and questionable judgment calls, managed to find himself somewhat addicted to the particular effects of vampire venom. And now, without having the slightest clue of the particulars of said venom because of our 'twelve different kinds of vampire' issue, I'm having some difficulties coming across any sort of effective remedies to counter the addictive properties and withdraw effects." Magnus said all of this quietly, aware that this was not a conversation he particularly wanted overheard. "Hypothetically, of course. That would be my current frustration."

    He didn't want to appear too hopeful that she might have some sort of immediately helpful knowledge, but it would be nice. He hoped that placing his trust in this woman wouldn't prove to be a serious error. She had been rather helpful the last time he asked her for advice, though, and perhaps that was what prompted him to make the same attempt a second time, albeit with a much more serious issue than 'will my boyfriend think buying a house for Christmas is too excessive'. But he didn't mention names, or that there was the added issue of the heroin addiction, and so he imagined this didn't truly break his promise to keep John's secret.
     
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    Everyone thought that hypothetical were going to hide the fact that they were asking about themselves. Jo didn't even have to be a psychologist to understand that Magnus was talking about himself and there was a friend that he was worried about. Jo had to keep herself from biting off a retort about how all vampires should burn at the stake and considered the situation. After all, he was hypothetically asking about his friend. And Jo wanted to steer him clear of falling into the wrong holes, so she was going to have to really try to stay neutral here. Since he was helping his friend.

    "Well, there's a lot of them where the venom seems to attract their prey." Jo was going to speak like a hunter. She was going to speak like someone who tracked these things down and killed them, because that was the truth of the matter. Vampires were monsters. There was no way in hell she would speak about them any other way, even if some of them tried to be vegetarians about it. Stupid shit, that.

    "You could do a lot of damage of tearing the victim from the vampire, depending on the situation. Depending on the type. Some have mind magic to back up the situation that creates a psychic link." Jo could think of only one or two that had a connection like that, thankfully, but when it was dealing with a habit it was best to know what you were dealing with exactly. So other people didn't get damaged for the rest of their lives.

    "What are the symptoms. How does this... acquaintance describe his high?" She had her journal upstairs. It would be easy enough to reference a few things but she wasn't entirely sure she wanted to go that far. For the moment she'd trust her memory on the subject and see how far this conversation went. Then Jo would get her book, if she needed to.
     
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    Magnus assumed as much. If the venom had addictive properties to it, the way that yin fen did, then it would make sense that John continued to go back for it. That he might form an addiction to that sensation on top of his other addiction, layering them into an overwhelming and inescapable need rather than simple recreation. Magnus hated to think of him like that, but it was difficult not to after the night he arrived shaking on his doorstep. Even if John was careful to appear entirely in control since then, at least around Magnus, even when he'd come for help with the withdraw symptoms.

    "A psychic link that would serve as a lingering connection between the two?" Now there was something that Magnus hadn't considered. He knew that vampires could have some mental abilities, but most of them were temporary, or only effective for short periods of time. He hadn't considered the effects of a repeated use of this ability, should the vampire in question have it at his disposal, and the additional complications that might create. "And it would be unlikely the victim would even be aware of it's use?" He asked, though he imagined he already knew the answer.

    But her last question left Magnus with only a heavy sigh and helpless shrug to offer as an answer. "I don't know. They don't want me looking into this. They don't want me to know who the vampire is, and refuse to give me any useful details because they don't want to stop. They won't admit it's a problem." There was obvious concern behind Magnus's words, the real root of the problem he had with all of this. He could be much more use if he knew more, but John was being horribly stubborn about it all. And now Magnus was venting these frustrations on the poor bartender, ranting to her about all of the things he wished he could just tell Alec, but couldn't because he made a promise he wanted to break more than anything, but just couldn't bring himself to.
     
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    There were all sorts of creepy things about monsters. Jo had learned a lot of things over the years but there was a lot about monsters that made sense. Vampires had to survive on blood, most of the time, for example. Jo could understand that part of life. There was a large part of her that had felt that way over the last two years. Survival was instinctual to almost everyone.

    Which was why human monsters creeped her out the most. It wasn't about survival. It was about weird shit. Domination and fetishes and... a thousand other things that made her skin crawl. Additionally why ghosts unnerved her. But vampires? Not nearly as bad as some of the others. Not as bad as say, a demon or an angel either.

    "Could go either way. There's a vampire where the pit is like a super drug. Couple of hits and the person will come back on their own accord. Delivery." Jo's smile got a little bit tighter. She had avoided the spit in that case and lighting thing on fire had revealed the true monster inside the skinsuit it had been wearing. Another gross one.

    "So what have you picked up on so far? Habits? Reactions? The best way to diagnose a problems is by looking at the symptoms." It probably sounded a little cocky but Magnus wasn't giving her enough information to really advise him on anything. Even if all of this was technically hypothetical.[/B]
     
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    "It sounds like you really know your vampires," he observed, not quite asking how but the questioning glance he shot her way from behind the glass of whiskey he took a long drink from made it clear that he wouldn't mind an explanation. If only so he knew where she was getting her information from, a question he tried to ask earlier which was expertly dodged in favor of more vampire discussion.

    It was starting to really hit Magnus, who was initially too invested in the idea of potentially gathering helpful information -if not actual answers to some of the questions he had rattling around his brain - from this unexpected source, that Jo knew a lot about vampires. More than the average person, even the average person who had a casual interest in the subject. She'd done research. More than that, much of what she said to him seemed reflexive, as if speaking from personal experience.

    And the wrong kind of personal experience, the kind that Alexander and Jonathan had, which was the reason he wasn't going to them about any of this, could make this conversation more dangerous than helpful. Perhaps in his eagerness he'd made a mistake.

    "Just your usual, mundane addiction reactions. Pain and shaking from withdrawl... My friend has a chronic pain that goes away with the venom's numbing, euphoric properties - from what I can tell, I think they're mostly chasing that high like a drug user would." Again, leaving out the fact that he was already chasing that same high from actual drugs on top of the vampire venom. It was hardly important to the matter at hand, and the least specific information he could give that might allow someone to know just who Magnus may be speaking of, even on the slightest off-chance she may know John. "I haven't seen them much since then - certainly not during any periods of withdraw. I made it very clear that I thought this had to end, and I think the idea of me trying to convince them to stop was taken as a threat rather than an attempt to help."
     
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    She did know her vampires. Ghosts, werewolves, and vampires seemed to be the main course of hunting here in Pandora. Occasionally a ghoul or a freaking new monster she had no clue about but she had just sort of winged it. And the blonde had taken on a number of little tricks to keep up. Like keeping herself well stoked with a few random items just in case something unexpected happened.

    Jo also dipped into the magical wares Pandora had to offer to help even her odds. Explosive gems, magical potions, and a little bit of divining if she couldn't find something. A little favor here, a promise there, and a lot of people were more than willing to help her if she had saved their friend's life. Or if that life was on the line. It was all complicated and different compared to the hunter's life back home, but it worked for her here.

    "Vampires were a decent issue back home. Just because I've changed worlds doesn't seem to have solved that problem." Alright, she couldn't fully dance around the issue. She wasn't going to admit to killing anyone at the moment but she couldn't deny what she had seen either. Jo had laid her eyes on plenty of dead bodies since coming to Pandora and many of them had been killed by monsters pretending to be people.

    But that was the thing. Jo didn't hunt anyone unless they were killing. Vampires that left people alone? Not her problem and not her business. She wouldn't stick her nose somewhere it didn't need to be. The hunter only had so many hours in the day and unless a life was on the line, then she didn't have time to deal with. But this? A life could be on the line.

    "That's normal of addicts in general though. One day he might ask you for help only to rob you of everything you own in an attempt to get his next high." That part didn't seem any different from any other. The blonde couldn't pick anything out about his words though because there wasn't a lot of information she could use. "Your best bet may be forceful rehab. He'll hate you for it but you might save his life." There was a risk of course, but if he wasn't freaking out about anything too hard then that was the best route. "Just let him go if he starts showing any freaky health signs." Hopefully it wouldn't go that way though.
     
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    She was being vague, and he didn't blame her. Just as he himself currently held some reservations in giving her all of the details, not sure where she really stood on the subject and not wanting to accidentally put his friend in her crosshairs for making deals with vampires (or himself, given his close personal relations to several of them), she seemed unsure as to just how involved in all of this he was. Sure, he said he was looking into things to help a friend, but that could mean a lot of things. A lot of different potential levels of involvement. And the way she kept giving him those questioning glances, he was pretty sure that part of her suspected he might just be talking about himself and trying to cover it up.

    And, again, he couldn't blame her for it. He was being rather vague, and it was a very controversial matter. Playing the odds with her responses was a safe bet, and the same one he would've made in her position.

    In the end, with what little information he could give her, she gave him the same answer he'd first given John: forced detoxing and rehab. Well, his suggestion was that John make the decision to go willingly, but when John didn't seem keen on that idea Magnus did casually suggest that he could step in, until he was afraid the idea would push John away from him entirely. At the very least he wanted to know that his friend would still come to him if things got too bad, and forcing him into something he didn't want was going to do nothing but keep him away entirely.

    Magnus sighed. "I was afraid you'd say that. It was the same conclusion I had, too." He polished off his drink and pushed the glass across the counter towards Jo, in obvious need of a refill. "They were hoping for some magical fix - a potion, or a spell that could take the cravings away entirely, but... there's nothing I can find, not that wouldn't potentially have worse side-effects than the problem itself." Things like memory loss. Things like potential death, not knowing exactly the sort of properties it would be interacting with depending on the sore of vampire venom in his system. Too many variables.
     
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    The quick fix. "Everyone wants something quick to solve their problems. Such a thing doesn't exist because there are always strings attached." For example, making a deal with a demon. They'd come collect your soul in ten years and there was nothing you could do about it. Just because you didn't know everything at the start meant nothing really. Jo didn't know how desperate a person had to be to make a deal with a demon. It seemed pretty cut and dry to the blonde. It just wouldn't happen to her. She wouldn't go down that Winchester road.

    "Depending on how much you care about him, it might be best to arrange it to happen without you being directly involved." There was something she had some insight into. Kidnapping. Funny enough Jo never saw it as kidnapping because it had always been for a reason beyond holding the person against their will. Like torturing a monster for information to find out where the hell he had stashed a bus full of kids he was going to eat. Or... no, mainly just where the bodies were. Alive or dead, sometimes it didn't matter as long as Jo could end the situation.

    "I mean for example, if this... friend of yours is your brother, sometimes sense just ain't gunna work when it's coming from someone like that. People don't change unless they have to." Of course this was all... illegal. She was going down territory that could get her arrested if it arrived in the wrong ears but Jo wasn't actually doing anything. Just suggesting some help. And she knew the ways around legalities in Pandora. "Arrange a trip outside of a city. Get some friends of friends to help you out. Have a set aside location with supplies. Drop the fucker in, keep him there til he's clean, and then let him go. No faces he'd know though, no way to tie it back to you. Make it seem like he won a trip or something if he's easy to dupe." That was the hunter way.

    Not that Jo had ever gotten someone off drugs. Nobody she was close to had ever gone through that. But there were a few people she'd do that to if she needed to. "Just be careful. There's some really fucked up shit out in the middle of nowhere. People are being held against their wills out there all the time." There was no mistaking her voice on that one. It was personal. It had happened to her and she wasn't exactly willing to talk about that one either.