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vam|pire, the - a collection of vampire science | Raphael Santiago

Discussion in 'Development' started by Raphael Santiago, Jan 13, 2018.

  1. Raphael Santiago

    Raphael Santiago The Mortal Instruments
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    Table Of Content

    1. Feeding - Anatomy (about fangs and how to inject the venom)
    2. How To Survive Off Of Blood (mundane, animal and other blood; how often does a vamp have to feed)
    3. Aging & DNA (a quick lesson on telomerase, telomere, and immortality)
    4. The Turning (how, how long + the most important changes; to be added)
    5. Vampires & Animals (how animals react to them + shapeshifting; to be added)
    6. How To Survive Off Of Blood, Part 2 (what a vampire can taste out of your blood; to be added)
    7. (to be added)
     
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    Feeding - Anatomy


    To ingest blood by biting into the vein does only make sense in theory. At least at first. But, from the start.
    Vampiric bats, the animals so commonly associated with vampires, use their fangs to open up the skin and then lick off the blood that pours out of the wound. Their saliva prevents the blood from clotting so soon, which is good for the bat, but bad for the animal, in most cases, since it can lead to infections.
    The kind of vampire seen in Shadowhunters, and many other movies and shows, however, does not lick off the blood (at least not as their main source of food). They bite and drink, their fangs embedded into the vein, and most often their saliva is either healing and can close the wound, or it at least increases the amount of red blood cells, making the victim feel refreshed, energetic, etc.

    To be able to drink straight out of the vein, their fangs have to be hollow - like straws. But, they also have to have a pointy end to successfully pierce the vein, which means they probably look a lot like one of those straws, made for piercing open a small juice pack thingy. Of course, they can't be totally thin either - the walls of that hollow tooth, I mean - since they would break pretty quickly; unless they're not made of the normal teeth stuff. Given that this is a creature of fantasy and magic (in certain ways), it's more than possible, that the fangs are made from something much harder than Enamel and Dentin. (Dentin is the material most of the mundane tooth is made of, Enamel coats the tooth above the gum line and is considered the hardest material in the body.)

    The next thing is the venom.
    The vampires in Shadowhunters are shown to inject the venom at the exact same moment while they're drinking from the vein. Meaning, the venom has to be injected through the fangs. Having a hollow tooth, as mentioned above, would allow a small tube to lead from a venom gland into the fangs, much like a venomous snake has. A venomous snake's fangs wouldn't be solid enough to tear flesh however - which vampires usually don't do, but which is implied as something they can potentially do.
    But, as I mentioned above, the vampire fangs are probably made from something sturdier than Enamel, which means, that shouldn't be a problem.

    So. My idea, summarized: Vampires have hollow fangs, with the venom-conducting tube in the front (but on the inside, mind you), while the rest of the tooth's width acts as 'straw' to suck the blood out of the vein. Raphael's saliva in particular has healing effects on wounds.
     
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    How To Survive Off Of Mundane Blood


    Given, that a vampire's heart doesn't beat anymore, a vampire's blood can't get oxygenated by their own body, and blood cells die without getting naturally replaced. To counter that, a vampire has to ingest blood from living, breathing beings, or else their body stops functioning completely.
    The question is: How often would a vampire need to drink new, fresh blood?
    If you take the natural life expectancy of blood cells into consideration - 110 days - they would roughly have to feed three or four times a year, but only if they drain their victim completely. A human can lose about 40% of their blood if they're healthy, and we assume vampires would seek out healthy mundanes to drink from, meaning, a vampire would have to feed 12 times a year, or, once a month.


    Sidenote, since you might be wondering: While period blood isn't nearly enough to fulfill the vampire's need for blood, it's very nutritious and completely sterile, so, ingesting it wouldn't be a bad thing.

    Shadowhunters' vampires (at least Simon, a freshly turned one) are seen to drink more often than that - almost every day (if only small sips), or at least every two or three days. It could be possible, that they do that to counter and ease the blood lust. Or maybe, especially in the beginning, the body is still accustomed to the mundane eating cycle, but substitutes the hunger for food with the hunger for blood now. This hunger would most likely decrease over time and with experience though.

    On Blood TypesIn the show, vampires drink 0 negative - which makes sense, since blood type 0 can be used as donation for every human body, no matter the blood type - but also drink from random strangers, whom they definitely do not know the blood type of, and where it doesn't seem to matter if they do. That begs the question, if the vampiric body is able to use every type of blood to sustain itself or if the writers are just not as invested in the scientific aspect of it as I am; that could be explained by the 'fantasy and magic' excuse, and for now I won't delve deeper into this, since I lack the knowledge and the energy. Depending on the specific type of vampire, you could also argue that the demon blood in their system neutralizes the threat which the wrong blood type poses.

    How To Survive Off Of Animal Blood


    The 'vegetarian' option for vampires, aka animal blood, has a handful of advantages and disadvantages. While it should be possible to survive on it for long enough, I suspect it wouldn't be a permanent option. The human body isn't made for working on animal blood, and even if you say, it wouldn't immediately cause a blood poisoning and the inevitable death of the vampire, it would need to be replaced sooner, and it wouldn't ease the blood lust as much as human blood does. Which, can lead to the vampire snapping and attacking mundanes again after a while.
    So, sorry for crushing your Twilight-related fantasies, but Edward Cullen would be fucking dead by now. For good this time. Sorry.

    How To Survive Off Of Other Blood


    With little to no canon evidence to go from, I can only make assumptions here.

    WerewolvesIngesting blood from werewolves can lead to a multitude of effects (which depends on the type of wolf, too, obviously) ranging from getting poisoned, over turning into a hybrid, to- well, nothing happening. I headcanon, that their blood smells like earth and something that can be described as a clear full moon night.
    potentially poisonous

    Seelies, Elves, FaeGiven how many different types of fae there are, it's impossible to only write down one smell/taste here. I headcanon leprechauns to taste like whiskey, grass and luck, while mortal elves rather taste like iron and nectar. I assume, fae or seelie blood in general, would make a vampire either feel dizzy and high, buzzing with energy and magic, or it's a special treat in between, like chocolate. Could be poisonous, too, though.
    low-key addictive

    Magic Users, Warlocks, MagesI always headcanoned their blood to smell and taste like blueberries, honey and salt. Depending on the magic user in question, its effects on the vampire are probably rather positive, energizing and healing or their blood just tastes differently, but has no noticeable side effects.
    low-key addictive

    Angels, Shadowhunters, NephilimIf it doesn't outright kill the vampire due to its angelic properties fighting the demonic properties of the vampire body, it will hook the vampire; angel blood is said to be the highest high when it comes to taste, like the infamous ambrosia. Vampires, high on angel blood will be generally stronger, more durable and faster, but almost unable to focus due to the high.
    high-key addictive

    AliensMost vampires are turned humans, which is why I'd say, alien blood can't be ingested by vampires, and if, it's most likely poisonous as hell. Smells like outerspace and sweet woodruff. The closer the alien species is to humans, the better a vampire would be able to digest their blood.
    high-key poisonous

    DemonsI'm gonna take a daring guess and say, demon blood would kill a vampire. It probably is sweet and tempting as hell, but just as a carnivorous flytrap attracts flies with it's sweet scent, the liquid itself is sticky and acidic. Better, you avoid it altogether.
    high-key lethal upon digestion

    Merpeople, Nymphs, SirensProbably smells like hibiscus flowers, and very salty. Too much of it either turns the vampire into a hybrid, or has the same effect too much salt has on the human body: dehydration. Can be a rare treat.
    potentially deadly
     
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    Raphael Santiago The Mortal Instruments
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    Aging & DNA

    Or: How To Become (Technically and Potentially) Immortal
    In the human body, the DNA constantly clones itself, but every time, we lose two pieces of it. Those lost pieces get replaced by empty placeholders called telomere, so our DNA doesn't disappear. There's no endless amount of telomere though, which means, if mundanes don't die of old age, they die because their DNA disappears.
    Now, what happens when vampires die and become immortal?
    My theory is the following: At the beginning of life, in the womb, humans have a gene active which produces telomerase, which 'turns' into telomere, effectively giving us our stash of empty DNA strings; once we're about to be born, that gene shuts off. Some might say: Okay, but why aren't we trying to reactivate it then? The answer is simple: That would lead to cancer.
    Instead, I have two ideas, what could happen when a vampire dies. Idea number one: The vampiric body regains control over that gene and is now able to turn it on and off at will, which leads to a potentially neverending but controlled stash of telomere. Idea number two: The demonic energy drastically slows down that DNA cloning process. Combine both of them, and a vampire could theoretically live (almost) forever.